From the Heart: Findings from the in-depth interviews - Anne Maree Payne and Heidi Norman

That way you can work a way out of some of the problems that confront you.” (Interview with EW) For a number of non-Indigenous interviewees, the impact of truth-telling was drawn from the power of personal experience; one interviewee commented “testimony is huge, and having stories heard and the nature of people's experiences, and really having an understanding of how that impacted people.” (Inter. [...] I know that they feel very keenly about the ownership of their stories and control of their stories and making sure that we're respectful of that is a key part of it.” (Interview with BB) This interviewee also commented about people needing to feel “comfortable to walk into the space of that - and so feeling that there is a clear invitation… there are many people who still would not have Aborigina. [...] People really being aware of the level of importance of to this to our country and the time from people that is needed to put into this for healing to occur is a big issue.” (Interview with BB) For another non-Indigenous interviewee, it was important from a strategy perspective to recognise and accept that not everyone will be highly engaged, although it was also important to call-out misinformati. [...] If we are to embark on the third element of the Uluru Statement, then I think we have to embark on a public education program about the truth of our Aboriginal history… at the end of the day, the truth telling is about public education and changing hearts and minds.” (Interview with EW) These comments parallel those of another non-Indigenous interviewee, who also highlighted the lack of knowledge. [...] I mean, to take that on and to have awareness of the history, and the challenges they face, and to not at least take some level of passion in wanting that to change, then…yeah.” (Interview with MA) It is also interesting to note here that two non-Indigenous interviewees (MA and TM) specifically identified sport as an important place where non-Indigenous people interacted with and got to know First.